Dr Chris Palmer stresses the Keto or Carnivore diet for healing from Schitzofrenia. I am very interested, but It is almost impossible to get my 34 year old son to comply. The meds or the disease has damaged his brain. He speaks in word salad.
Is anyone aware of a camp or retreat that only serves "Keto Friendly " Meals. I would like him to live and eat this way with fellow schizophrenics and hopefully heal.
Are any parents interested in starting a camp or retreat with me?
my partner has BPD( borderline personality disorder )eats this way keto/carnivore .
While it certainly hasn’t healed the MI it has helped the mood fluctuation.
Prior he did binge eat lots of sugar /over eating. though
Are you able to prepare this diet for your son at home .
My partner drinks the butter coffee ,homemade bone broth, usually a high fat red meat for lunch dinner.
My brother with schizoaffective disorder eats a ton of sugar /caffeine
I have noticed in the past himself to be more stable when he is maintaining a healthier diet not even keto but just 3 meals a day.
Unfortunately that goes by the wayside often
My son, Andy, loves sugary things. He can’t maintain a consistent keto diet. Any hope for healing escapes us.
So I am searching for a camp or commune that provides only keto foods. Maybe set up my own with other parents helping
Meg, I appreciate that you responded. Hope all goes well with your family
Thank you I hope the same for you, for all of us !
I think the concept is very interesting. I haven’t had a chance to read any articles or the research of how the diet affects schizophrenia yet but when I find time I’m going to.
It really truly is a popular concept the keto diet for many people so I can imagine more and more research will be done about this
Best Meg
I will
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That sounds good, if my son would agree to it, but he is too paranoid to do much.
Hi Irene
Thanks for reaching out.
It’s been frustrating but I still have hope.
I have been doing Dr Chris Palmers protocol. Keto diet with interesting results. Have you tried it with your son?
Dan
I find this approach so interesting and promising. Science is beginning to understand that brain metabolism can be key to managing this disease, possibly even without meds. Most brains use sugar broken down from carbs as fuel, but those with some neurological disorders like epilepsy and SZ seem to function best when the primary energy source is ketones from fat. I just wish it were easier to apply the principles of this diet without needing medical supervision.
I don’t think medical community is going to endorse Dr Palmers keto therapy for 20 years. Too much money is at stake. Must be a grass roots movement.
I have been living on ketones for 2 1/2 years and I have never felt better. I eat a strict carnivore diet.
The diet is not complicated hamburger, fish, bacon, eggs chuck roast it’s simple
I have seen podcasts from Dr Palmer and I it really seems to help with SZ. The problem with my son is he was totally uninterested when I sent him a podcast from Dr Palmer and didn t even listen to it. My son eats a very processed food diet and sadly refuses to change it. He has no desire to help himself because , of course, he is not sick! Lol
Hi Irene
Sounds like my son. He is too slow mentally anymore to do it himself. That is why I am starting a camp where we can control the diet and have some companionship and activities to make it fun.
Do you feel like talking?
Hi Irene
Any luck with your son?
Dan
I was just telling my SZ sister about this idea. She is suffering horribly at this time, switching meds again and again. I live in MN but ahe is in MO, its hard to visit to help her. She is open to the idea but is having difficulty starting a vastly different diet than what she has grown accustomed to. Her house is filled with non keto food and her husband has no interest in changing things and is skeptical of all things I suggest.
Ive been carnivore for just over a year and the changes that ive experienced have been so profound that its been shocking, like a miracle. But no one seems to believe me when I tell them how much it can help them. That, and the diet itself is so contrary to mainstream medicine, and quite difficult for people to even try due to their own carb addictions.
I’m searching for a way to help her, which is what led me to your post and joining this site.
I see you’re in Ohio, but im very curious if you have any success in your efforts to start/find a keto camp?
Hi Bart,
That is hardest part. Nobody wants or can change. My son has become retarded and can barely care for himself. I have tried repeatedly to get him on a strict diet and he never complies. For example , one 5 month period, I lost 60 pounds on carnivore and he lost 20.
How old is your sister and is she high functioning?
I am in touch with a young man in Las Vegas who has recovered from Schitzofrenia. I saw it with my own eyes over a twelve month period. He is back in college and talks clearly. He is willing to talk to others. I love him for that. If your sister would like to talk with him, let me know.
If you would like to talk, my cell is 513-477-1091
Dan
Hi Bart,
That is hardest part. Nobody wants or can change. My son has become retarded and can barely care for himself. I have tried repeatedly to get him on a strict diet and he never complies. For example , one 5 month period, I lost 60 pounds on carnivore and he lost 20.
How old is your sister and is she high functioning?
I am in touch with a young man in Las Vegas who has recovered from Schitzofrenia. I saw it with my own eyes over a twelve month period. He is back in college and talks clearly. He is willing to talk to others. I love him for that. If your sister would like to talk with him, let me know.
If you would like to talk, my cell is 513-477-1091
Dan
That is so true, change is tough.
I’m sorry to hear that about your son. Was he high functioning at any point? How quickly did he devolve?
My sister is 50 yo, she is still high functioning. Brain fog, slower processing, and memory are what I’ve noticed mostly. The drugs she is prescribed have worn her out to the point that she is sleeping 14 hours per day while taking Adderall and doesn’t have the energy or motivation to do a whole lot besides sit there and watch TV. She tries very hard to keep up in life, she was awarded disability nearly 15 years ago now and has no faith that she could ever work again. She volunteers and travels from time to time, but it’s all getting harder for her year by year.
I think it would benefit her to talk with your friend, but she isn’t in the right place currently to do something so outgoing. Perhaps if this new medication eases her symptoms, it could be a possibility. She needs support from people who know what she is going through, as I can only imagine.
I’m basically her lifeline and spend most of my little free time talking with her on the phone to remind her of reasons to live, and to encourage her to have hope.
Your son is lucky to have a dad willing to fight for him, especially when his will to self-improve has gone.
I’m desperately trying to find a keto friendly psychiatrist near my sister that will accept insurance, and I haven’t been able to even find the keto-psychiatrist part yet. She barely eats anymore so I can’t imagine how messed up her stomach biome is becoming, contributing to her decline in mental health.
It does feel better to discuss this, even if just through the internet. Soon I will need my own support group to help me stay strong through this. I’m a troubleshooter by trade, and by nature, and fixing problems is what I was born to do. I will never abandon her, and I swear to God I’ll find a way to help her become the person she was, and still is.
Thank you, Dan, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to me so quickly.
Bart?
Appreciate the note. RFL he is bringing the hammer down on pharma bs. My son was fine at 17 until he heard voices. And a good diet would have fixed it. Now the meds have ruined his mind and he is 34.
Let’s keep in touch