I pray that you will call 911 the next time this happens. He is dangerous. Please please call the police so they can get him in the hospital. I’ve read stories on here of people being killed.
Hi, I think it is only from they psych or counceling office, the psych didnt do it, one of the councelors did. I also went to have it, anyone can have it for medications. It is literally a cotton swab in mouth to gather saliva, which has your dna, then they send to a lab. I went to the office to do it, so maybe they can meet you for that, as we also are doing the online appts. Just ask about it, seems they dont offer it, and if they dont know about it, then look for one that does. medication is key. I also read some study from a university, North chapel where they tested schitzophrenic/schitzoaffective people, and 12 of 17 people had this enzyme or something from thie diseace cats and dogs carry. And that they think Pottasium iodine helps to go away. It was like cat scratch fever. I know y sons father had 5 cats, and 4 dogs and we had 1 at and 1 dog. They are still doing studies on it, it was online, and done around March of this year.
My son also talked of devils and god, and so did a lot of the people I met whose son had same thing at a NAMI, National Association of Mental Health insititute class, (they offer free classes, a 12 week class on schitzophreniz, bipolar, and other mental illness, very helpful)…
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The whole mental health system is really a mess. I went to the NAMI classes and support groups and you can hear all the same stories from others, and get some other support and help. Once 18, its hard. I got a POA signed at a postal annex place, they sold and brought my son there to have the on staff notary do, it helped some to be able to talk, and of course if they will tell them you can talk to the doctors, they will talk to you. As my son also most likely said he was ok, and didnt ever say he had anything wrong or say the symptoms and behaviours that he has. CA only hospitalize you for 3 days, and the doctors would only come on last day for like 10 minutes to look at them and then dismiss and say get a psychiatrist. I couldnt get my son to call…and he wouldnt call…and they wouldnt let me schedule, as he was over 18. Ridiculous, you have to lie, say you are them… Then if they say, well you sound like a woman…say, well Im transgender…use the bullcrap for your benefit…to get them help.
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Potassium iodine? I will look into that as we do have a dog. Am willing to try, hope my son is willing. I will check into this dna swab. I just have to get through the holidays first!
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Oh boy have I tried to lie to get some answers! Guess I’m not good enough at it. Doesn’t mean I won’t keep trying! The mental health system is a great big mess!
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Yes, NAMI tries to advocate for some things…change is so.slow
Hi Tippy, jeez! we are going through the same experience except our son is going unmedicated and his chanting goes every day with only cussing and the most lewd words he can find to blurt out; he can mention every family member or not! It’s very stressful, I go to my room and close the door, I hear him from there, he sleeps in the living room with every light on upstairs, outside and in the garage. He hasn’t gotten the knives out but he spits in the carpet in the living room and his room and after cleaning it I put a plastic runner, he flushes the toilet constantly and washes his hands endlessly; the kitchen’s floor is damaged, he’s always making a mess aiming at his father’s chair at the table, his place on the couch, and his car which by the way Saturday night he introduced a needle to damage the tire and the scary part is last week I saw him with a package of needles, I didn’t think much of it because he’s always buying unnecessary things; well now I know that he did it intentionally!
I have called the cops on him for punching walls or spitting up on me but when they ask if he lives here with us they say it’s also his household and he can destroy the place and there’s nothing they can do. Sometimes I really feel frustrated and without much hope because nobody can help, in this state of mind I can’t even talk so I am kind of in the corner.
Good thing he leaves home for a few hours.
I understand what you’re going through. Last time our son was for a month at the hospital, back in October, and he was discharged after they administer the long release im abilify but that was it, he didn’t follow up as an outpatient.
My husband got me a pepper spray that I need for an emergency.
Couple of years ago I thought my son was taking the meds but he was cheeking them, I had to vacuum in his room and there they were all his pills, some half chewed and others whole practically
Stay safe and take care of yourself the best way you can.
I am so sorry that you are going through this. Unfortunately, I take some comfort in knowing that I am not the only one going through this mess. Have you been able to get him on disability? It is such a long process and I still have not been able to get my son declared disabled. I don’t understand how some people get these benefits handed to them and I have been working on this for a very long time and it looks like I am going to have to start all over again! I am hoping that once he gets disability benefits it will open him up for housing assistance and I can get him out of my house. Maybe you can try to navigate the process to get your son out too?
Hi Tippy,
Our son is 48 and we’ve been on this unpleasant trip for over 30 years, it hasn’t been easier with time, on the contrary it seems that the older he got the sooner he stopped taking his meds and sooner we’ve been on the ‘over again’. He’s been on disability since he was 23 I think, in the beginning he got his commercial drivers license and he went on the road for couple months, prior to that he used to deliver pizza for couple of years, that made him eligible for SSDI and even when that’s not a big check it helps, for a while he had been on SSI but last year that changed and the SSI stopped, still I don’t know why, however he applied for the linkcard and it helps too.
Since he already has a history of doing damages in the low income housing now he’s not been given consideration for an apartment there so I don’t look there either; he has been in the low income housing about 4 times in different places and evicted 3 out of 4 for damages in the apartments, it’s been very expensive!
We’re stuck with him; I don’t have a heart to kick him out, of course sometimes I feel like doing it, those unpleasant habits are hard to bear; however it’s winter time here in the QC, IL and I have seen him with frostbite on his hand and toes due to his lack of judgement to dress properly for the cold season.
Time ago a friend of his went to apply for the disability but was denied and he had a Lawyer to help him with the process, the outcome was favorable for his friend; I learned that from certain time it’s routine for SSA to deny the applicants and it takes a little longer. I know in his case the social worker at the hospital initiated the process; you may have to contact the social worker at the hospital where he is at to help him with that.
I also take comfort in knowing that there’s more of us in the same boat and we can strengthen each other through the sharing of experiences wether they work or not.
My thoughts are with you.
Take care and overall be safe.
Happy New Year!
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Wow, you have and are going through so much. I feel your pain. I keep thinking about what will happen when my husband and I are dead, what then? I want to get him out of the house so he can learn to take care of himself. I am so tired of this disease. I know he doesn’t want to feel this way either. I just want to get him all the help that I can. I really need to get him declared disabled so we can try for housing for him. He may just do what your son did and destroy them also, but I have to try. I just know that I would much rather be at my stressful job everyday, than to be at home with his issues. At least at work I can have some control over things. My thoughts are with you also.
Hi Tippy,
jtlyk not evey person with a mental health issues does the same destroying, some can live on their own and don’t destroy or damage others property so yes, you have to try; I retired as a public transportation driver and it was a stressful job especially during winter season but nothing like this hellish living at home right now; there were periods when our son would comply with his medications and life continued more or less ‘normal’! I don’t wonder too much about what will be of him should we die, I don’t think we’re really indispensable, I trust God and others will take care of him wether he’ll like it or not and it might be for his own good. It’s very frustrating and tiresome to deal with it every day, and since he’s unmedicated nothing I say sinks in, he’s so focused on the past and what others do, most of the times he’s finding faults on everyone instead of focusing on what he himself can do. I’ve heard wonders of Clozapine, the medication that have cleared the minds of so many. If my son ends up at the hospital again I’m going to suggest the doctor this medication for him.
There’s this link of a story of recovery with that medication
Thank you for replying and the supportive thoughts.
- You can contact the social worker, at the hospital where your son is, or a lawyer to help you out to have your son start on disability assistance. You don’t have to pay a huge amount for that, they’re very reasonable.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your son.