My son left home and he is another state and Homeless. What is the Next step

Doctor, I admire your strength in dealing with family and friends with Mental illness. you are definitely have more experience in dealing with these issues.
still working with my brother to be able to control my son more and force him to seek help… will see.

Thank you, I think that the same goes for everyone in this forum too. We all have been through a lot with our loved ones. I personally grew up surrounded by family members with mental illnesses, so that gave me exposure to dealing with them and analyzing myself and others. Both my parents are psychopaths, my mom didn’t tell about my dad until I was 16 and they were divorced before I was born so I didn’t live with him, but my childhood was very abusive and lonely. You just gain a kind of mentality and emotional barrier to deal with these things, I had to be the adult as a kid because my mom is immature and reckless. I myself have Asperger’s (which is genetically linked to schizophrenia), and I developed PTSD, MDD, and I think having social anxiety was somewhat derived from my abusive childhood since I was never allowed to go out or speak. I fear that I could get it someday due to some family members having it from my mom’s side (no idea as to my dad’s family history, all I know is that a few of them were cold and quiet, but mostly logical and kind people).

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I understand how abusive and lonely childhood can create mental health issue in kids. what kind of work did you mother do?
you seems to be in good control of what is going on with you and around you. it is hard to know that you had a mental condition.
you said you have Asperger’s (which is genetically linked to schizophrenia), then are you currently taking any medicine to control? if yes, what medicine?

do you currently see anyone from your dad side of the family?

I know what PTSD stands for but what is MDD?

My mom’s an architect. I am not on any psychiatric medications and my psychiatrist doesn’t want me on any either since she’s noticed that they make me worse in one way or another. She also thinks I’m stable and that I don’t need them, but she really can’t prescribe anything for insomnia. I’ve only visited my dad’s family three times in my life and I’ve never had any contact after that with them. I know that he got married to his third wife, I haven’t seen him since I was 7. MDD stands for “Major Depressive Disorder,” also known as “Clinical Depression.”

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It is hard to comprehend how can your mother as an Architect be Reckless! but it is possible. Sometimes when someone become proficient at something, will tend to ignore other obligations. that is is why you acted like the responsible adult even though you are a kind.

I just want to tell you the new update that My son is finally is Hospital in California. He had met someone who hosted him for few weeks and later left the City where he was to another city about one hour away. I have been making little Deposits for him all along like something $20 to $30 a day and sometimes more.
I tried to cut him off one time and he calls and I felt bad and start depositing again…

I think few times, he was paying for other people, because he would spend like $22.00 on a meal in one Restaurant. I send him lots of warnings but he would not reply to any of my emails…

Just yesterday, the person who hosted him went to check on him in the new city and talked to the Police and found out that he was admitted to San Mateo Hospital in California. what is Relief for me.

My Mind was eating up with worries: I would think what if someone harms him in the new city, what if he is doing drugs or drinking, etc… and I was always watching his bank account daily to verify that he is using the money for food. I had a really a bad feeling in the Stomach because I cannot communicate with him.
I was getting exhausted and depressed. I have been working 2 jobs

Now, I feel much better knowing that he is safe in s hospital and sleeping and eating OK.

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New Update on my Son
My son is finally is Hospital in California. He had met someone who hosted him for few weeks and later left the City where he was to another city about one hour away.
I have been making little deposits to his bank account since he left my home back in September 26. I was depositing first $15 a day then increase it to $20 a day, then to $25 and during Thanksgiving deposited like $30 per day for few days. My brother kept on telling me to cut him off.
I tried to cut him off one time and he calls and I felt bad and start depositing again…

I think he was paying for other people meals because he would spend like $22.00 on a meal in one Restaurant even though I had sent him lots of warnings to do not exceed $10 a meal but he would not reply to any of my emails…

Just yesterday, the person who hosted him went to check on him in the new city and talked to the Police and found out that he was admitted to San Mateo Hospital in California. what is Relief for me.

My Mind was eating up with worries: I would think what if someone harms him in the new city, what if he is doing drugs or drinking, etc… and I was always watching his bank account daily to verify that he is using the money for food. I had a really a bad feeling in the Stomach because I cannot communicate with him.

I was getting exhausted and depressed. I have been working 2 jobs

Now, I feel much better knowing that he is safe in s hospital and sleeping and eating OK.

I truly hope that he gets better this time and possibly go back and live close to a normal life.
I know his life will never be the same way it was prior to the illness but I am hoping he will improve to be close to 70% to his prior normal life.

Please Keep him in your prayers and thought.

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Most psychopaths are surgeons, lawyers, and CEOs; all professions that require great attention, detail, and careful decision making. My dad’s an engineer. A psychopath can have any profession and that may be their mask whilst behind closed doors they’re very different. My parents are both very popular, charming, and attractive people so they easily attract others and have a big social circle. I know differently though, that she is a particularly a very lonely individual and some people can’t stand my dad because he’s very egotistical/narcissistic. It’s all a façade. That’s great, I’m really glad to hear that’s he somewhere safe and in recovery!! There’s this new law that allows to give information to the family members if they have the patients best interests even if the patient refuses to sign release papers, so you should call and find out how everything’s going with him. Have you spoken to him yet? How long are they going to keep him in there for?

Thank you for updating. I’m glad to hear your son is receiving treatment.

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I’m so glad for you both. Take care of yourself knowing he is getting the help he needs. Have you been able to communicate with the hospital? Did his host tell you he was hospitalized? I wish you the best of outcomes.

Yup, I understand that someone can influence others to a big extent, it can cause someone to deviate from Norm Many Hollywood Stars are either depressed or Bipolar or other types of mental disorder.
Yes, narcissistic Individuals are hard to deal with and almost impossible to work with. they have strong opinion that is hard to change
some of the famous people with narcissistic behavior are:
Hitler, Stalin, Casanova, OJ Simpson, Saddam Hussein, Margaret Thatcher, Paris Hilton, Donald Trump, Simon Cowell.
According to other websites,
Winston Churchill: psychopath

  • Saddam Houssein: psychopath
  • Uday Houssein: psychopath
  • Muammar Gadaffi: psychopath
  • Tony Blair: sociopath

Check also Bobby Fischer ( Grandmaster of world Chess Champion)

You mother is successful and charming, she may be also isolated and lonely because of her attitude with others. She probably can put up a show with others and look great but deep inside she may be lonely because she is highly motivated to attain her goals with desire to succeed and excel in her work. this can cause extreme mood swing…

Regarding John, he still did not sign a consent form to talk to me or to my brother.
I called the Nurse and gave her all the information about his medicine and where he was treatment between April and July.

I am trying to get him to go back to Stanford Hospital where he was there in April. They know him and the medicine he was taking was helping some and he can have Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) over there…

I truly hope he gets better this time. he has been in these cycles for the last one year and 1/2 ( In and out of Hospitals)

thanks Mom2. I am trying to get some rest when I am not working… but holding 2 jobs is not easy with added stress of worrying about my son and what will happens to him next.

he still did not sign a consent form to talk to me or to my brother.
I called the Nurse and gave her all the information about his medicine and where he was treated between April and July.

I am trying to get him to go back to Stanford Hospital where he was there in April. They know him and the medicine he was taking was helping some and he can have Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) over there…

I truly hope he gets better this time. he has been in these cycles for the last one year and 1/2 ( In and out of Hospitals)

It is all in God’s hand and will keep praying about it.

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Thanks Hereandhere.
I know we still have a long Journey ahead of us and Thanks God that he is Safe in Hospital.

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There’s a saying that says, “If you’ve met one person with autism, you’ve met one person with autism.” There will always be symptoms that will overlap, but for ASP it’s the same. Trying to analyze a psychopath you’ve never met is extremely difficult and sort of pointless. You want to understand them, but rarely anyone does. My mother is not interesting in succeeding or excelling in her work, she’s just competitive and likes to brag about how she’s better than others and all her accolades, etc. accomplishments. She doesn’t actually even enjoy working or her job, she’s one of the laziest people you will ever meet. It’s purely derived from an egotistical standpoint of, “Look at me, my things are bigger than yours.” Her attitude is intolerable, despite her being the life of the party and all that jazz, but she’s alone because she wants to be alone. Whenever I wanted to talk to her, she would always dismiss me. The week that I moved out I never had heard her talking to me so much. That’s good, maybe when he gets released your brother can take him to an airline to get him back home and it would be go if he could go with him that way you can make sure he doesn’t run away again.

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I guess you know your mother better than anyone else. it is good that you moved out. this way, she will reach out to you and communicate to you better. I Know that being selfish and ego-centric can really drive people away from you. but she is your mother and you will always love her no matter what. Hopefully she is more mature now and communication is better between both of you. I see why did you have to be the Adult one during your childhood.

Regarding my son, I am going to try to see if he can get into Government housing and share apartment with someone like him in California; a place where he can be monitored. I have a feeling if he comes back and live with me, the cycle will repeat no matter how patient I am with him.

I am working 2 jobs and renting a room in my home so I can keep up with expenses…

Well, I will always Trust in God to make it better for him and for everyone on this website

Wishing Miracles during this Holidays Season.

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I wouldn’t say she’s mature now, more like emotionally needy. Whenever she calls all she talks about is herself and constantly telling me what to do and what not to do. If I ask her a question, I’ll have to repeat it up to 5 times and she won’t answer it until I yell at her that I asked a question and that she’s off-topic. Then she’ll apologize and say she couldn’t hear me, but there’s been times that she’s done that and I say, “Nothing,” but she repeats back what I said to her as a question, so she obviously did hear me. She sent me a holiday present this year though, I hadn’t received anything since I was 10 on the last Christmas I had. That’s not such a bad idea, but it’s really difficult for someone with schizophrenia to live with one or multiple people. I know because I have a friend with it and she cannot be around others without being disruptive and destructive and my fiancé had roommates all the time and he was always getting kicked out, knocking on people’s doors at night, never leaved his room, and he even had a restraining order filed against him. His behavior was unsanitary and unacceptable while around other people. Thank you and I wish upon you miracles as well this season and for the New Year! :blush:

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Good luck in your schooling, you are very determined.

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